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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/06/2017 at 8:33pm
I'm sure this is wonderful. I have serious visual impairment due to glaucoma. I  was thrilled when the remote was released as it made it truly possible for me to use this easily. Unfortunately, the firmware update essentially turned my Hilo into a unusable state. The remote simply does not correlate  with the firmware update.  I can't see the little script on the touch screen. I'm going to try to roll back to 7.  I read thru this entire discussion and someone experienced problems and was unable to roll back. I'm a small, songwriters/demo studio near Houston.(Cypress Creek Audio)  I use the Hilo as the center of my studio.

When will the remote match the firmware?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/13/2017 at 12:11am
David,

Great job on the update especially the Master Out controls.   

I have a question about the digital attenuation on line outs.   I know you are using dither and that's great and a necessity but is the gain processing done in a 32-bit floating point environment?   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/14/2017 at 7:41am
Re: Hilo Remote

Hilo remote controls on digital input don't work on either the OS X or Windows version.    I can visually see the gain sliders move and the mute indicators light up but to no effect on the Hilo.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/14/2017 at 1:18pm
Just tested it.  Works fine.  You must be showing the same OUTPUT selected on the Hilo as Hilo Remote for you to see the INPUTS change.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/14/2017 at 2:48pm
I see.  I have to select the monitor page on the Hilo and then I see the changes on the remote.   Ok.  

Are you planning on updating the remote app to include the monitor and routing pages as seen on the Hilo?


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The routing page is exactly the same as it was before, so it already shows exact the same thing as it did before.  Hilo remote shows what the monitoring page is doing in real-time, just not in the same 'four button' way.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/15/2017 at 7:37am
Originally posted by m stan m stan wrote:

David,

Great job on the update especially the Master Out controls.   

I have a question about the digital attenuation on line outs.   I know you are using dither and that's great and a necessity but is the gain processing done in a 32-bit floating point environment?   
David, I am asking about the digital attenuation because I am on the edge of being forced to use it on the line outs to adjust my subwoofer levels.    

I am using the line outs for subwoofers and the levels are about right with output trim set to 0dBV with sub amps gain controls at 11 o'clock position but digital attenuation at -6 dB.   If I set digital attenuation at 0 dB then I have to turn down the amp gain but, as you can see, I am almost out of adjustment range on the sub amps.   If the digital attenuation doesn't produce any audible distortion in the low frequencies then I would like to use it a little to stay in the midrange of the sub amp gain control otherwise I'll go lower on the sub amp.   So, how much quantization distortion is there on the Hilo's digital attenuation especially below 100Hz?

PS: The more I use the new GUI the more I really like it.  I think you have done a superb job on it! 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/22/2017 at 6:41am
Originally posted by m stan m stan wrote:

Originally posted by m stan m stan wrote:

David,

Great job on the update especially the Master Out controls.   

I have a question about the digital attenuation on line outs.   I know you are using dither and that's great and a necessity but is the gain processing done in a 32-bit floating point environment?   
David, I am asking about the digital attenuation because I am on the edge of being forced to use it on the line outs to adjust my subwoofer levels.    

I am using the line outs for subwoofers and the levels are about right with output trim set to 0dBV with sub amps gain controls at 11 o'clock position but digital attenuation at -6 dB.   If I set digital attenuation at 0 dB then I have to turn down the amp gain but, as you can see, I am almost out of adjustment range on the sub amps.   If the digital attenuation doesn't produce any audible distortion in the low frequencies then I would like to use it a little to stay in the midrange of the sub amp gain control otherwise I'll go lower on the sub amp.   So, how much quantization distortion is there on the Hilo's digital attenuation especially below 100Hz?

PS: The more I use the new GUI the more I really like it.  I think you have done a superb job on it! 
I have solved this problem.  I just got a dbx PA2 to run the subs and can do transparent digital attenuation there.

I guess it is pretty obvious that Hilo doesn't do transparent digital attenuation.  And that is ok because Hilo offers a hell of lot for the money as it is.    Now would I pay more for transparent digital attenuation capability?  You bet I would!  In fact, I just paid $800 for a used Z-Systems EQ unit that has it.   I am just sayin' David.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/31/2017 at 6:33am
If I would have been brave enough to beta test v8 I would have said that on the horizontal meters, there is not enough difference between the orange color and the red color at the top of the scale.



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